tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-789886813706673673.post123280172724966324..comments2024-03-27T13:25:59.811+00:00Comments on Upper Thames Moths: Chancing my arm . . .Peter Hallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10828069795222628270noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-789886813706673673.post-7618390371467285382021-04-10T11:41:39.345+01:002021-04-10T11:41:39.345+01:00I agree with Marc - both are Brindled. The second ...I agree with Marc - both are Brindled. The second one looks a bit like Common until you zoom in.Martin Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729488330455421039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-789886813706673673.post-56477309949925419842021-04-06T17:06:25.929+01:002021-04-06T17:06:25.929+01:00Blimey! Quite early in the season for Pug confusio...Blimey! Quite early in the season for Pug confusion but I can see why. I think Oak-tree for the first (pale area beyond discal spot and rounded wing-tips) and Brindled for the second.Nigelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00643061027555120933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-789886813706673673.post-90775017818266812362021-04-06T16:12:54.287+01:002021-04-06T16:12:54.287+01:00Ooh! I love a bit of controversy! It's interes...Ooh! I love a bit of controversy! It's interesting, isn't it, because both specimens are pretty fresh - which goes to show how tricky this group is. I got to Common Pug (for No 2) because of the white spots and faint white line around the forewing's inner margin. Is that diagnostic?David Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00178380532177028989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-789886813706673673.post-62418679847100951542021-04-06T16:12:32.947+01:002021-04-06T16:12:32.947+01:00With the usual disclaimers, I thought that the ear...With the usual disclaimers, I thought that the earlier post showed a Brindled, while the first of the two above I agree with Dave is more like Oak-tree - but the second I think might also be a Brindled with the dark 'arrowheads' on the post-median line. On the question of a pale sub-terminal line/spots, some online examples of these Pugs also show this e.g., https://www.northumberlandmoths.org.uk/files/idtips/1852-brindled-pug-1853-oak-tree-pug.jpgJohn Thackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06600490877716903552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-789886813706673673.post-32468569980704990722021-04-06T15:52:42.243+01:002021-04-06T15:52:42.243+01:00Indeed, its a horrible challenge. For me, they'...Indeed, its a horrible challenge. For me, they're both Brindled Pugs :)<br />Marc Bothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13450563399415585204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-789886813706673673.post-56193179204314706542021-04-06T15:00:58.631+01:002021-04-06T15:00:58.631+01:00Well, sticking my neck out I think you are probabl...Well, sticking my neck out I think you are probably correct with Common for the second, but the first (rather a dark image) actually looks to me more like Oak-tree from its wing shape and the rather more substantial discal spot. Nobody likes ID'ing Pugs, especially from other people's photos! Dave Wiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533795070964851106noreply@blogger.com