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Monday, 2 June 2014

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I'm now running behind in my catches - these were from Saturday night. The first one was easy but a suprise, a Scorched Wing, I think the othe one is possibly a Large Nutmeg although there seems to be a hint of a shoulder streak, I think I have a cadis fly and the final one I can't find at all.


Mark Griffiths, Garsington, Oxford.





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10 comments:

  1. Unknown2 June 2014 at 18:28

    Large Nutmeg, Caddisfly and Grey Pine Carpet

    Tim

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  2. Mark Griffiths2 June 2014 at 19:34

    Thanks Tim!

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  3. Unknown2 June 2014 at 19:55

    I think second pic is Rustic Shoulder-knot and last is Spruce Carpet

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  4. Peter Hall2 June 2014 at 20:44

    HI Darren, definitely a Large Nutmeg. The Carpet is likely to be Grey Pine as the basal colour of the median band is chocolate brown rather than greyish as in Spruce. The dark lines around the "cells" in this median band in Spruce are also darker and more distinct.

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    1. Martin Townsend2 June 2014 at 20:51

      Definitely Grey Pine

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    2. Unknown2 June 2014 at 21:46

      Hi Peter, in the concise guide it only shows RS-k as having the 3 whitish dashes on the leading edge, the 2 Large Nutmeg images haven't got these. this was the obvious difference i was going on. With this example having a slight basal streak too, i was convinced. Whats the best way to separate these 2 species? I've always recorded ones like this as rsk.

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    3. Peter Hall3 June 2014 at 09:41

      OK, the easiest way to make sure it is a candidate for RS-K is to look for the black basal dash. That's the main diagnostic I use. The LN lacks this dash, or at best it is indistinct. If you have Skinner, you can see your white dashes in the LN. The LN also has paler areas just before the termen, up to 3 and you can see a paler area in the image, otherwise it simply looks like one (but that doesn't help you or others)

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    4. Adam Hartley (Gnome)3 June 2014 at 21:22

      If it helps Darren, LN also has a moderate "W" pattern towards the inner end of the outermost cross line and the outer central crossline in LN is far more scalloped than RS-k though you can't easily see that in this specimen. The sandy marbling in LN as for this specimen can be quite distinctive as well.

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  5. Dave Wilton2 June 2014 at 21:05

    ...and for what it is worth, the caddis is one of the few "easy" ones, Mystacides longicornis.

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  6. Mark Griffiths2 June 2014 at 22:11

    thanks everyone!

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