Angle Shades

Found an Angle Shades hanging on to the kitchen window an hour or so ago. I expect it will be the last moth for the year for me. Always been a favourite.

Mark Griffiths
Garsington, Oxford

Winter or Northern Winter?

Sorry, I have been asking a lot of questions lately - and am very grateful for the resulting help, as ever. Here is another. Am I right in thinking from the patterning (and comparing it with WTL, that this is a Northern Winter moth? Or is it not really possible to distinguish between that and the Winter moth from a picture? Martin Wainwright, Thrupp, Oxon

P B B

Bit dozy, so I may have missed Christmas. Anyway, the lonesome male Winter moth on my front door tonight has a male Pale Brindled Beauty for company.

Curiosity

May I ask about this little character, the only moth n the trap this morning after a much colder night? It has a look to me of Acleris cristana but it's completely the wrong time of the year for that isn't it?. Any help much appreciated as always. It's still in our greenhouse somewhere.  Martin Wainwright, Thrupp, Oxon.

Winter??

Maybe we're bypassing winter this year, though I suspect we'll get a cold spring instead if this continues. Anyway, Common Marbled Carpet in good condition to garden trap last night I guess isn't super unusual but the fact I'm getting moths in December in urban garden pretty much every night is a bit unusual. Angle Shades still regular as are fully grown larvae around garden. Marc Botham, Didcot

A couple more queries

I put the trap out for the second night running and initially thought I'd attracted only this battered chap. My best guess is a Pale Brindled Beauty because of Dave's post, the resting position and body colour, but I'd much appreciate more expert guidance.  I've got some more pics. While photographing it, I noticed the Plume below. I'm sorry the photograph isn't better but it was a pinky brown colour. It's still snoozing, so I could have another photographic try. But if it is recognisable from this pic, I'd be most grateful for advice.  Martin Wainwright, Thrupp, Oxon

Further Woodland Moths

The season refuses to end this year!  With a mild night and with the wind having dropped I decided to run an MV trap in Bernwood Forest for a few hours last night.  The result was 93 moths of 15 species, a very healthy total for the first week of December:  Plutella xylostella (1), Scrobipalpa costella (1), Blastobasis lacticolella (1), Acleris ferrugana/notana (5), December Moth (8), Red-green Carpet (1), Spruce Carpet (3), Winter Moth (28), Feathered Thorn (2), Pale Brindled Beauty (2), Spring Usher (1), Mottled Umber (31), Satellite (2), Chestnut (4) & Brick (3).

Scrobipalpa costella, Bernwood 6th December

Pale Brindled Beauty, Bernwood 6th December

Spring Usher, Bernwood 6th December

There were loads more Winter Moths flying around, particularly as I was setting up, but relatively few of them actually came to the light.  Pale Brindled Beauty regularly appears before the new year but I don't recall having seen Spring Usher this early before, although I see from the books that it can sometimes appear in late-December.  Back home at Westcott the garden actinic trap managed only three moths, comprising singletons of Caloptilia rufipennella, Winter Moth and Mottled Umber.

Dave Wilton
Westcott, Bucks
   

Curious object

From above

From one end

Spurred on by a visiting six-year-old, I put the trap out for the first time in several weeks and was rewarded this morning with a male Mottled Umber and a Red-green Carpet, both in very good condition. The eggboxes also contained this curious object - an egg hatchery? A cocoon? - and I wondered if anyone knew what it might be? My rather grubby thumb gives scale of a sort, below.  Martin Wainwright, Thrupp, Oxon

From the side

Early stages still out there

On Saturday I found the early stages of a few micros on the A34 embankment just north of Wolvercote.  There are still a few leaves remaining on some trees, enough to record the leaf mine of Stigmella salicis from sallow, although nothing was present on the more numerous osier.  The teasel heads proved to hold the larvae of Endothenia gentianaeana and Cochylis roseana - here in Somerset the former is present in just about every teasel head, even very isolated plants, and on the brief look I have had so far it looks like the same is true around Oxford.  The larvae are easy to rear by keeping the teasel-heads somewhere cool until the spring, and can be found throughout the winter.

December Woodland Moths

An MV trap left running for the usual three hours in local mixed woodland last night, just to get a few December records, produced Acleris ferrugana/notana (2), December Moth (3), Winter Moth (59), Northern Winter Moth (3), Feathered Thorn (1), Mottled Umber (3), Setaceous Hebrew Character (1, the latest I've ever seen it), Chestnut (3) & Brick (1).  Plenty more Winter Moths were hanging around on adjacent oak trunks and amongst them I noticed one mated pair (easy to pick out because the male always faces down the trunk!). 

Winter Moths in cop, 1st December

I was surprised not to get Scarce Umber (it is known from the site) but otherwise the catch was pretty much as expected.  Last night's garden actinic trap managed only Winter Moth (1) & Chestnut (1).

Dave Wilton
Westcott, Bucks

Found while digging the veg patch

I think that this is a Large Yellow Underwing caterpillar but would be very grateful for confirmation.  Martin Wainwright, Thrupp, Oxon

Help needed on some dodgy IDs

I started trapping and identifying moths in the spring of 2013, before this marvellous site was up and running. As a result, I was reliant mainly on a couple of books and the UK moths website to help me out, and it was quite a steep (but very enjoyable) learning curve.
Now at virtually the end of 2015, I thought I would look back to my early mothing days and see if I have made any serious blunders. Many of the moths I first identified in 2013 I have subsequently seen again in the subsequent years, but there are a small number that I have not seen again since that first year. This led me to thinking that maybe some of these were in fact wrongly identified.

Having gone through my photos, I have to say that I am pretty happy with most of them. However, below are a couple that I probably mis-identified in my novice days.
The first, trapped on 3rd July 2013, I had identified as a Pale-shouldered Brocade, but looking at the photo now I think it was in fact a Light Brocade.

The second, trapped on 29th May 2013, I have recorded as a Blossom Underwing. I did not record its size or the colour of the hindwings unfortunately (I only found out the importance of these things later!). Looking at the photo now, I am not really sure about this one. What do the experts think?

Finally, below are photos of 2 moths that I think I did identify correctly, but please let me know if you think otherwise. The first of these, trapped on 24th July 2013, I have recorded as a Kent Black Arches.

And the second, trapped on 25th September 2013, I believe is a Dusky-lemon Sallow.

All help much appreciated.

Steve Trigg, Cookham

Hanging on

Very quiet as expected here in Didcot garden, with first few winter zeros coming in recently. However, milder weather over last couple of nights has seen Red-line Quaker still out and about, Turnip (very fresh), Pale Mottled Willow, Mottled Umber (already seen way more than last winter) and Crocidosema plebejana (2 different individuals), oh yes and the normal spatterings of postvittana. More interestingly, at least to me anyway, is the Swallow-tailed Moth I caught earlier in November which returned to the trap a while back and has been sitting it out since, still alive and well even after those very cold nights and frosts. He's looking a bit forlorn now but he's still going! Marc Botham, Didcot

Hanging around waiting for July temperatures - Swallow-tailed Moth Didcot 26th November

Crocidosema plebejana Didcot 26th November

Moths!!!!!

After a Sprawler on the 7th November, my trap was just about turned off, bar the odd night/evening. On Wednesday the 18th a female December Moth appeared at my front porch light and stayed there till Tuesday 24th. I ran the trap all night on 24th as I thought because she had gone moths may be flying, with no luck whatsoever. Tonight so far, 3 December and 1 Mottled Umber, the first this winter.
After asking some advice about bulbs etc a few weeks ago I've decided to treat myself to an early Christmas present, my new twin 30w actinic Robinson trap will be here Friday..........happy happy with loads more moths to come.
Dave Wilton could you please send me your email, I've got a few moth from earlier in the year for Peter, including a probable Gelechia Nigra. My email is Darrenrseaman@gmail.com. Thanks
Darren Seaman, Milton Keynes.

National Moth Night 2015 records submission deadline

Below is a note from Les Hill about the records.
Please send in your records if you can.
In the case of Buckinghamshire, if you don't fancy either of the options given, then please send your records to me.
The nights in question are 10 - 12 September.

Thanks

Martin Albertini
malbertini@onetel.com

Hi all,

This is just the annual reminder to all recorders to ensure all Moth Night 2015 datasets are submitted via our online recording system (www.mothnight.info) or by MapMate Sync file (via the MapMate Web Server or email to lhill@butterfly-conservation.org) by close-of-play Sunday, 29th November 2015, after which the online system will be closed and the data shortly afterwards will be forwarded to all County Moth Recorders for verification.

The full written report will appear in a future edition of Atropos.

Many thanks for taking part, all of us in the Moth Night Team hope you enjoyed the event.

Best wishes,

Les Hill

Moth Night Team

Tatty, but nice hair

Things are very quiet here now with only a Winter/Autumnal/Pale moth in the porch and a Satellite in the trap, plus this raggedy, but impressively hirsute, individual. My best guess is Yellow-line Quaker or Brick but I'd be very happy to be put right.  Martin Wainwright, Thrupp, Oxon

Just two moths

Only two moths came to the garden actinic last night, a washed-out Scarce Umber (the 14th garden record so far this month - it seems to be doing rather well this year) and the inevitable Dark Chestnut.  Time now, perhaps, to be a little more selective about when I run the trap!  Northern Winter Moth is the only macro-moth which might still appear here this year and that's just as likely to come to the light of our kitchen window as it is to the moth-trap.  This year's final macro total depends also upon a handful of dissections of Minors and Common Rustics but with luck could reach 320 species which is way above average for the garden.

Westcott, 19th November

Dave Wilton
Westcott, Bucks

Another set of Leafminers for ID

Hopefully there will be some that are ok enough to be ID'd.

the first one I think might be Callisto denticulella on Apple

the second and third, don't know (again on Apple)

 the fourth on bramble, maybe Stigmella aurella?

the fifth was on Lime - no real idea

the final one on Apple I think is  Lyonetia clerkella

Mark Griffiths, Garsington, Oxford

Leaf miner help please

I took a batch of photos last month and am just going through them using a key Dave Wilton put up a while back. This first lot were all on Copper beech.

The first I think might be Parornix fagivora, if not I've seen it but just need to get some later pics

the second is perhaps Phyllonorycter maestingella

the third I'm thinking is Stigmella tityrella?

Mark Griffiths, Garsington, Oxford

ID from October

hi, I noticed this going back over my records ..maybe a small square-spot but can't see the spot? Or maybe a Pale Mottled Willow?

caught 6th Oct.

Mark Griffiths, Garsington, Oxford