Tuesday 6 April 2021

Chancing my arm . . .

 OK - having been told that my last post was indeed a Brindled Pug, I'm boldly claiming that the two below are Brindled and Common. Am I right? And isn't it a bit early for Common Pug?

Best wishes, David




6 comments:

  1. Well, sticking my neck out I think you are probably correct with Common for the second, but the first (rather a dark image) actually looks to me more like Oak-tree from its wing shape and the rather more substantial discal spot. Nobody likes ID'ing Pugs, especially from other people's photos!

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  2. Indeed, its a horrible challenge. For me, they're both Brindled Pugs :)

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  3. With the usual disclaimers, I thought that the earlier post showed a Brindled, while the first of the two above I agree with Dave is more like Oak-tree - but the second I think might also be a Brindled with the dark 'arrowheads' on the post-median line. On the question of a pale sub-terminal line/spots, some online examples of these Pugs also show this e.g., https://www.northumberlandmoths.org.uk/files/idtips/1852-brindled-pug-1853-oak-tree-pug.jpg

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  4. Ooh! I love a bit of controversy! It's interesting, isn't it, because both specimens are pretty fresh - which goes to show how tricky this group is. I got to Common Pug (for No 2) because of the white spots and faint white line around the forewing's inner margin. Is that diagnostic?

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  5. Blimey! Quite early in the season for Pug confusion but I can see why. I think Oak-tree for the first (pale area beyond discal spot and rounded wing-tips) and Brindled for the second.

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  6. I agree with Marc - both are Brindled. The second one looks a bit like Common until you zoom in.

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