I think we can probably agree on the first one being Uncertain. However I'm not sure about the second which from that image looks to me more like Vine's Rustic.
Hi Dave many thanks for your help with this,are rustics normally a darker ground colour than my example or is there something else that distinguishes them from vines?
Agree re the first one. In real-life (i.e. as oppposed to pictures), Vine's is greyer than this and also has a straight leading edge. In some larger, darker females it can be slight curved, but not as much as this. See FG for other differences. My other piece of advice is that we all get some Uncertain/Rustics wrong and don't worry too much about it as they are all very common and the genitalia differences between Uncertain and Rustic are easy to misinterpret. Vine's is in-between broods at the moment (although there will still be the odd few). In September they will be Vine's.
Hello Mike,
ReplyDeleteI think we can probably agree on the first one being Uncertain. However I'm not sure about the second which from that image looks to me more like Vine's Rustic.
Hi Dave many thanks for your help with this,are rustics normally a darker ground colour than my example or is there something else that distinguishes them from vines?
ReplyDeleteVine's has white hindwings, always good to check these
ReplyDeleteAgree re the first one. In real-life (i.e. as oppposed to pictures), Vine's is greyer than this and also has a straight leading edge. In some larger, darker females it can be slight curved, but not as much as this. See FG for other differences. My other piece of advice is that we all get some Uncertain/Rustics wrong and don't worry too much about it as they are all very common and the genitalia differences between Uncertain and Rustic are easy to misinterpret. Vine's is in-between broods at the moment (although there will still be the odd few). In September they will be Vine's.
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