Wednesday 29 July 2020

A few queries from last night

Firstly a couple of Micros I'm not sure about.

I think this maybe Cochylis atricapitana. L=8mm.


Next is this Metriotes lutarea? L=7mm. According to the book it is the wrong flight season. Late Apr to Ear June !!.


Now a couple of Macros.

I think this a Turnip Moth, but the Dart appears to be missing. L=18mm.


Now here are two that always cause me the most confusion and sleepless nights. Are they Uncertain or Rustic. The first one has a rather grubby hindwing, but the second one was much more whitish.



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  1. Martin Harvey29 July 2020 at 23:12

    Hi Tony, I agree with C. atricapitana. I don't think you have Metriotes (now Coleophora) lutarea, it looks more like one of the other greenish Coleophora species.

    I think Turnip is okay - the hindwing colour is a useful additional pointer for that one.

    I'm not at all sure about the first Hoplodrina, which may have to remain as an aggregate unless anyone else feels confident of it.

    I think the second Hoplodrina looks more like Vine's Rustic, which has a paler hindwing.

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    1. Tony Towner30 July 2020 at 11:17

      Thanks Martin. Before releasing the lutarea last night it did look as though it was a metallic golden green with black antenna and whitish tips. I'm now leaning towards C.trifolii. I think I will record the Hoplodrinas as Uncertain or Rustic aggs. The Vine Rustics I have seen here before always seem much more paler grey. Thanks again for your help.

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  2. Martin Townsend30 July 2020 at 07:27

    Those both look very much like Rustic to me. The second brood of Vines is just starting. I had two last night.

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  3. Martin Harvey30 July 2020 at 15:15

    Happy to go with Martin T's suggestion for the two Rustics, I wasn't feeling very confident of my suggestions!

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